I’m loving the mutilate spec at the moment. It’s sustained damage, but I throw away a lot of mobility. It’s fine for BG’s and the like, but in arenas I think I’m going to have to think about getting subtlety synced into my fingers.
After reading through, or glancing at, the patch notes for 4.0.6, I came to realize that sub is getting a damage buff and a mobility nerf. I’m still going to run both specs, and I expect it to become better as I get more gear. I’m still unsure of, however, if this is a good or a bad thing. It’s always nice with some more damage, but the hit it’s taking to some key abilities and treats of the whole spec is kind of a deal-breaker.
- Elusiveness now reduces the cooldown of Cloak of Shadows by 10/20 seconds, down from 15/30 seconds.
- Preparation no longer resets the cooldown of Evasion.
- Shadowstep’s cooldown has been increased to 24 seconds, up from 20 seconds.
So basically some cooldowns are increased and we’re no longer able to dual evasion if we need to. On the plus side though, there are some buffs I like.
- Find Weakness now grants 35/70% armor reduction, up from 25/50%.
- Sinister Calling now grants 30% Agility, up from 25%, and increases Backstab and Hemorrhage damage by an additional 40%, up from 25%.
- Sanguinary Vein now gives a rogue a 50/100% chance for their own Bleed effects to not break their Gouge.
More sustained damage, plus a CC buff. I really like the ability to bleed someone while gouging them. I play with a feral druid at the moment, so this might not come me in handy in arenas, but I’ll make profit on it when I go up against 1v1. These changes all affect Subtlety spec only. There’s a last one that I find not that noteworthy and I feel it’s intended for PvE. It will help us in some minor way, because we’re going to be wearing a small number of that stat most likely.
- Executioner (Mastery) has been increased from 2% to 2.5% per point.
Stronger bleeds from a stat we try to reforge off our gear and we trade it for more haste. If I’m running in mutilate gear when playing subtlety I might see a difference.
Other changes I find noteworthy are the ones affecting all specs.
- Crippling Poison now has a PvP duration of 8 seconds.
- Smoke Bomb now lasts for 5 seconds, down from 10 seconds.
- Stealth is no longer broken by enemies using Demoralizing Shout or Demoralizing Roar.
Smoke Bomb was overpowered when skilled players were using it. It’s a pain when you have to enter that fog to heal your buddy while he’s in there sitting through stuns and whatnot of incoming damage. If the healer had trinketed and got a blind and then smoke bomb was used after he came out of the blind he would have a small window to get in there and pop his biggest cooldown.
Not being popped out of stealth by warriors and druids shouts will be nice. The poison duration will not make a massive impact I think, as people try to get rid of it as fast as possible anyway. If it can’t be renewed during that 8 second window it will look like a grim nerf to us, but I doubt it. That would be strange if they went for it.
There are of course more notes, but I don’t bother talking about them at this time. Oh yea, combat for PvE will be buffed slightly, not that I care, but good for you that play the spec.
Wrath of the Lich King started out with a “kill fast or be killed” kind of playstyle, where rogues were the alpha omega of PvP. All healers had trouble with rogues before they got tuned down a bit. Which was immensely entertaining, from the rogue point of view at least. WotLK is not even done yet, so making a top-ten list is more difficult, considering a new movie might be released tomorrow (yes Woundman, I’m talking about you and your tournament movies!).
I’ve been browsing the warcraftmovies.com site for days now, building my lists, and there are so many movies with quality that it makes me a little sad that I don’t have room for them all. But these are my top-ten picks for WotLK rogue PvP movies!
- Six Silent Shadows
- Reckful – Sdance
- Buddhist and Lewt 2v2 – Episode 2
- Curse – 3
- Madow – Enter the Dagger
- Flaw – Shadow Dance WPvP
- Woundman 5 – Dance is Back
- Woundman 10 – Hypersomnia
- Spytie Rogue/Rogue
- What the FoK!!!!
Most of these movies are from players that are exceptional at what they do, and that is PvP. Apart from what the FoK, they are all pretty much serious PvP movies, I just found the last movie entertaining and a tad funny. He’s got mad FoK skills though!
Six Silent Shadows is a collaborative work from some of the best players walking the PvP scene at the moment, though I think Buddhist has quit. The movie is a must-see and it features a grand introduction part.
A lot of the other movies are shadowdance, and that’s because I love the specialization personally. Mutilate is good and hits harder, but subtlety features so many useful abilities movement-wise and it’s such a fun talent tree to go deep into.
I’m Nimbs, and these are my top ten picks for WotLK!
The Burning Crusade, which introduced the arena aspect of the game, offers some really good PvP movies from the rogue perspective. Both skill-wise and looking at entertainment value, I’ve got some real gems in store for all of you.
Ever since world PvP died on us, the rogue’s favorite activity, I’ve been wanting it back. Movies from this era has the tendency to get their footage from the arenas, but that does not mean it’s not good. I actually enjoy them quite a lot, however, the real gems of entertainment are from this era a mix and match of arena games, battlegrounds and world PvP. So with no further delay, I’ll get started on my top-ten list of rogue PvP movies from The Burning Crusade!
- Tosan – Trying Too Hard (4th movie)
- Tosan – Mutilicious (3rd movie)
- Niar – Mean Machine 1
- Stgeorge 3
- Akrios – Eviscerate 9
- Lewt carries Buddhist in 2v2
- Akrios – Arenas
- Neilyo – 14 #1
- Acrono – IX
- Kenion – Eviscerape 2
Tosan has the strength of combining both humor and skill with unorthodox clips, showing a lot of a rogue’s potential. This his 4th movie also introduce a really well done editing, which is why he gets the top spot(s).
I can’t say much about the rest, but they’re all good, I have to say Kenion always get the editing part down though. I rated them this was because of personal preference, and you may disagree. Anyway, I hope you have fun while watching some of the top rogue PvP movies from the Burning Crusade expansion. I loved the Lewt and Buddhist movie when it was released, and it has given me a lot of joy and getting to know the druid rogue power during TBC, and it’s my favorite arena movie.
I’m Nimbs, and I love TBC PvP movies!
When making this list I had both skill and entertainment value in mind. So even though a better player is rated lower, I am aware of the difference in skill, yet I value the others for their music, editing etc. And the most valuable attribute of them all is how I look back and remember them.
It’s time for the Vanilla WoW, best of, PvP movies!
- Mute/Kishkumen/Intoxicated – World of Roguecraft Episode 3
- Mute/Kishkumen/Intoxicated – World of Roguecraft Episode 1
- Mute/Kishkumen/Intoxicated – World of Roguecraft Episode 2 (Sadly the stream is taken off of wacraftmovies, but some random has uploaded it onto youtube in three parts, they should be in the featured list when following the link.)
- Grim – Total Annihilation
- Grim – Path of Blood
- Kenion – Eviscerape
- Meandro – Bring the Shadow vol. 3
- HappyMinti – Nerf Sap 1
- Eryx – Endless Sacrifice
- Perklunt – The Perkulator 4
There were several others I wanted to add to the list, but since I set my list to max ten entries, there is no room for them, sadly.
The Mute movies, possibly the one responsible for the diminishing returns on our stuns, were by far my favorites and still is today. Mixing humor with educative information and great game-play is a killer combination. Just the fact that he killed rank 14 warriors naked with a starting dagger is enough for him to sit on that number one spot forever.
Grim is another type of player. His movies is more of a “I shit on you, and now you’re on warcraftmovies proving my point.” His comments in his videos make him come across as a bit arrogant, but I guess it’s only for the entertainment. Also this was more of a Vanilla phenomenon, you wont see this as much in TBC or Wrath movies. Besides, I like the way he shits on his opponents!
Kenion is a god of editing and he also makes machinima. With great gear, tier 2,5 and a few tier 3 items, he’s also one who burst down his enemies. I did not watch his movies as much as I did with the other ones, but I remember being in awe of his play-style. This is enough for him to get that far up my list.
Meandro, probably the one I have watched the most. He managed to release 8 movies (all during vanilla!) in the series (Bring the Shadow) and 1 movie where he had just got his thunderfury and were dueling with it to show off. His play-style is to me kind of unique. He makes mistakes, he’s not flawless, but yet he recovers and ends up victorious. He has a lot of really good introductions to start off with, that sets the mood for the rest of the movies. He’s what I would call “an undead to the bone”.
HappyMinti‘s movie is footage from where he ganks (in lack of a better word) players that are higher level than him. The movie is old as a mammoth’s fart, and it’s impressive. It’s also really amusing to see all the mistakes being done at the time from some of his opponents. A classic!
Eryx is awesome. Nothing less than awesome. Awesome! Yet his movies wont make the top of my list, because it’s not the movies I spent the most of my time watching. I do remember him though, along with Perklunt, probably one of the top 5 rogues during Vanilla, skill-wise. So he has to get a spot.
Perklunt is tagging along with Eryx. You can’t make a list and not have those two names on it when you talk about Vanilla WoW and skillful rogues. A nice way to round off this list, having two of the biggest names around.
That concludes my list of PvP Movies from the Vanilla era. I had a blast putting it together, getting to reminisce the glory of level 60 game-play! Next in my Movie-bulk will be the movies from Burning Crusade, at which point the arena was introduced and the PvP movies flourished. I will probably spend even longer sorting my top ten on that list compared to this one.
I’m Nimbs, and I still think about my level 60 days once in a while.
I came up with a topic after misreading one of Daraia’s topics. I read it as “25 best rogue movies” and it really got me thinking. So thanks for the unintended inspiration, Daraia!
When I started thinking about what movies I like the most, through all the time I’ve been lurking and commenting on Warcraftmovies.com, I couldn’t get my mind set towards what movies I would pick and in what order to rate them. I decided to search around the website in order to build a well thought out list of movies you have to have watched before you quit this game as a rogue.
I’ll be shipping the movies in 3 bulks, where each of the bulk is fitting its respective expansion pack. Meaning the first one will be vanilla, then Burning Crusade and at last Wrath of the Lich King. There are a lot of names worth to mention, and there’s some who will not make my list, but it doesn’t mean I think less of them. It’s just a matter of making this post slightly less of a novel.
I need to stress one thing; this is my opinion, you may disagree with me and you’re free to do so. I will include the movies which has entertained me the most in each bulk.
As I am currently working on my list and the header picture, with little spare time, I am posting this spoiler right now. I’m planning to include around ten movies in each bulk, and hopefully I will make it.
I’m Nimbs, and I’m a filmoholic!
Daggers are what I would call the signature weapon for Rogues. You can’t play a Rogue and not try a dagger oriented specialization, at least for a short amount of time. Why do I love the daggers so much? First we’ll have to take a look back in time.
I’ll start with vanilla (original WoW). Back in vanilla I was playing a human Rogue, and we were a few Rogues back then, so I decided I wanted to go for swords and build my talents around that. Combat it was, with sword specialization of course. There were a few nice daggers and the combat dagger spec was close to the sword one DPS wise. Most of the other Rogues went after daggers, so I wanted to get weapons with less competition. And I wanted to be able to bid on Thunderfury’s bindings (never even seen one drop, yet my brother got TF on his Paladin). I got used to and very competitive for top DPS as a sword rogue, so I just sticked with it.
During Burning Crusade I started with swords (the Aldor exalted one) and kind of never left the path there either. I did try various dagger specializations though, but never really had the ultimate weapons for it. Plus I was topping most raids or competing with a few others for the top spots. During this time I leveled another Rogue on a different realm. I left my original Rogue for the new Rogue, a troll. It was a nice change going from my realm to the new one, it had a player-base that was a lot better. Soon I found myself a guild and started raiding. So I did what I was good at, combat swords! By the end of TBC mutilate had really picked up its power, and I got a sweet dagger from Mount Hyjal to wield. So I leveled from 70 to 80 with daggers and my mutilate spec.
Wrath of the Lich King was my salvation. Dagger specialized and ready to mutilate my enemies I was looking forward to raiding and upgrading my gear. With the change that came to envenom I really liked seeing my occasional 14k crits aswell. I’ve been dagger Rogueing since.
The thing I thought about was that daggers felt so much more Rogue-like. They fit the movements, the lore, everything really. And for me, they are now a must. I look forward to see how they deal with the dagger oriented specializations in Cataclysm!
Hi, I’m Nimbs and I’m a dagger Rogue!